Jamie Wheal Recapture the Rapture

Is it dangerous to believe in god or something bigger than yourself?

What do Mars colonization, cults, and the pursuit of heavenly salvation have in common?

And why are so many of us feeling spiritually lost?

Jamie Wheal is the co-author of Stealing Fire and the executive director of the Flow Genome Project. He’s returned to discuss his latest book, Recapture the Rapture. Today we talk about the world’s crisis of meaning, why groups sometimes make us dumber, and trying to fill the god-shaped hole in our hearts.

In this interview:

  • Rabbi Zalman Shachter, LSD, and being a Jew
  • Trying to ignore our faith
  • When Buddha, Lao Tzu, and other traditions don’t fit
  • Why so many of us long for god
  • Being “cosmic-orphans”


  • Why we’re in a “meaning crisis”
  • Our longing to escape the grind of life
  • The power of the death-rebirth experience
  • Communities that mean good but go bad
  • Why cults are a feature of being human
  • Do we get dumber as members of a group?

Click here for Jamie Wheal’s book Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex, and Death in a World That’s Lost Its Mind.

About Jamie Wheal

Jamie Wheal is the Executive Director of The Flow Genome Project and leading expert in the neurophysiology of human performance. His work combines a background in expeditionary education, wilderness medicine, and surf rescue, with over a decade of advising high-growth companies on strategy, execution, and leadership. Jamie’s coaching ranges from Fortune 500 companies like Cisco, Google, and Nike, to the U.S. Naval War College, and Red Bull. You’ll find him speaking on the intersection of science and human potential to diverse, high-performance communities like Young President’s Organization, Summit Series, TED, and MaiTai Global. At the Flow Genome Project, he leads a team of the world’s top scientists, athletes, and artists dedicated to mapping the genome of the peak-performance state known as Flow. He lives on the Colorado River with his wife Julie, their two kids Lucas and Emma, and a righteous Golden Retriever named Cassie.

Click here for Jamie Wheal’s book Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex, and Death in a World That’s Lost Its Mind.

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